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	<description>Suffering from chronic idiocy since 1977</description>
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		<title>By: 50 Influential Designers &#38; Developers to Follow on Twitter &#124; Graphic Leftovers Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>50 Influential Designers &#38; Developers to Follow on Twitter &#124; Graphic Leftovers Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] @danrubin &#8211; designer and developer. check out his last post on why IE6 is dead. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Six of One, A Half Dozen of the Other &#124; Ash White &#8211; MIST7500</title>
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		<dc:creator>Six of One, A Half Dozen of the Other &#124; Ash White &#8211; MIST7500</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 05:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of these sentiments are expressed best in this post by designer and web evangelist Dan Rubin. For what it&#8217;s worth that post is now a year old. Be [...]</description>
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		<title>By: IE6 is dead. Long live IE6. &#171; WordPress</title>
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		<dc:creator>IE6 is dead. Long live IE6. &#171; WordPress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post at superfluousbanter.org, The Final Word On IE6 is well worth a read for designers, developers and clients [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Degradable PNG Transparency for IE6 &#124; schoberg.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>Degradable PNG Transparency for IE6 &#124; schoberg.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are eagerly awaiting the day Internet Explorer 6 dies. While there are a number of opinions in the community on when we should drop support and how we should encourage users to upgrade, the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Daniel Brashler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Brashler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 14:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>8 months is a long run-time for a &quot;last word&quot; . . . but I can&#039;t resist.  

I just now (again) updated a website with a feature that required some special attention to keep it functional for IE6.  I&#039;m afraid though, that despite any technical education and cajoling that knowledgeable users do, the staying power of an included browser that was installed with a fairly stable OS release from the most monolithic vendor in the industry isn&#039;t likely to disappear quickly.  The sheer volume of users whose systems are supported by inefficient, bureaucratic and/or resource-strapped evaluators and implementors of new technologies ensures a very long and slow turnover.  At every opportunity, you have to evaluate the extent to which you can or should enable the old tech to continue, and the extent to which you can push the new.  You have to ride the line of maintaining technical functionality for the old, while showcasing the shiny new.  Like Detriot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>8 months is a long run-time for a “last word” … but I can’t resist.  </p>
<p>I just now (again) updated a website with a feature that required some special attention to keep it functional for IE6.  I’m afraid though, that despite any technical education and cajoling that knowledgeable users do, the staying power of an included browser that was installed with a fairly stable OS release from the most monolithic vendor in the industry isn’t likely to disappear quickly.  The sheer volume of users whose systems are supported by inefficient, bureaucratic and/or resource-strapped evaluators and implementors of new technologies ensures a very long and slow turnover.  At every opportunity, you have to evaluate the extent to which you can or should enable the old tech to continue, and the extent to which you can push the new.  You have to ride the line of maintaining technical functionality for the old, while showcasing the shiny new.  Like Detriot.</p>
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		<title>By: IE6 is dead. Long live IE6. - reality-engine WordPress blog</title>
		<link>http://superfluousbanter.org/archives/2008/09/the-final-word-on-ie6/comment-page-1/#comment-27922</link>
		<dc:creator>IE6 is dead. Long live IE6. - reality-engine WordPress blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 08:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post at superfluousbanter.org, The Final Word On IE6 is well worth a read for designers, developers and clients [...]</description>
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		<title>By: sebastien</title>
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		<dc:creator>sebastien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m french, sorry for my english :-/

Hello Dan, i&#039;m sorry but i have a question and i don&#039;t find a response anywhere. 
I want to write in the comments of my blog &quot;2 weeks ago&quot; or &quot;3 days ago&quot;, like you in your comments but i don&#039;t know why do that. Could you help me please ? What is the code you use ?

Thank you :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m french, sorry for my english :-/</p>
<p>Hello Dan, i’m sorry but i have a question and i don’t find a response anywhere.<br />
I want to write in the comments of my blog “2 weeks ago” or “3 days ago”, like you in your comments but i don’t know why do that. Could you help me please ? What is the code you use ?</p>
<p>Thank you :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Stratton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Stratton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post, Dan. I&#039;ve been fortunate enough to have clients (yay) but unfortunate enough that they want IE6 support.

I&#039;m honestly to the conclusion that defining support as pixel-perfection for IE 6,...,IE 8 is only worth it if it&#039;s within the client&#039;s budget. It takes time, energy, experience to tweak a lot of the quirks.

Education is key. Screaming &quot;Ugh that browser sucks&quot; has yet to do anything for any of my clients; and ones in managed environments (schools/corporate offices) are ready to move to the next freelancer at that point.

I&#039;m personally a big fan of some graceful degradation for older browser (or those that have limited support for CSS/JS/etc.). I&#039;m firm on the notion that content should be accessibly delivered to the user in a usable fashion, but if they want the goodies, they need to upgrade ;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, Dan. I’ve been fortunate enough to have clients (yay) but unfortunate enough that they want IE6 support.</p>
<p>I’m honestly to the conclusion that defining support as pixel-perfection for IE 6,…,IE 8 is only worth it if it’s within the client’s budget. It takes time, energy, experience to tweak a lot of the quirks.</p>
<p>Education is key. Screaming “Ugh that browser sucks” has yet to do anything for any of my clients; and ones in managed environments (schools/corporate offices) are ready to move to the next freelancer at that point.</p>
<p>I’m personally a big fan of some graceful degradation for older browser (or those that have limited support for CSS/JS/etc.). I’m firm on the notion that content should be accessibly delivered to the user in a usable fashion, but if they want the goodies, they need to upgrade ;]</p>
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		<title>By: VisitCafe</title>
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		<dc:creator>VisitCafe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IE 6 is a big enemy of web designer. Unfortunately, So many people still like this f**** browser</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IE 6 is a big enemy of web designer. Unfortunately, So many people still like this f**** browser</p>
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		<title>By: msn</title>
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		<dc:creator>msn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very good point about in-house departments—people can still target IT departments at universities et al, since ultimately they are the folks who need to provide the justification for whatever investment is required to make the upgrades a reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very good point about in-house departments—people can still target IT departments at universities et al, since ultimately they are the folks who need to provide the justification for whatever investment is required to make the upgrades a reality.</p>
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