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		<title>By: Kids Wall Art</title>
		<link>http://superfluousbanter.org/archives/2008/08/simple-css-hover-tab-thingy/comment-page-1/#comment-27908</link>
		<dc:creator>Kids Wall Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice &quot;thingy,&quot; and @chad I&#039;ve been looking for a tool that tests in all of the IEs. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice &#8220;thingy,&#8221; and @chad I&#8217;ve been looking for a tool that tests in all of the IEs.&nbsp;Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://superfluousbanter.org/archives/2008/08/simple-css-hover-tab-thingy/comment-page-1/#comment-27906</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This brings about a good point that I am always bitched at about by my clients.  IE6 interoperability.  I use a Mac, I code in Coda (flame away if you will) and use MAMP for testing.  I recently completed a design for a site and had tested it in Safari, FF2 &amp; 3 IE7 and Opera (even thought it&#039;s only about 2%) and the client screamed at me because one of their biggest customers (roots) uses IE6 still.  WTF uses IE6 still!?  Jesus.  Anyways.  Long story short, I found a program called IETester that you can download from Softpedia, to do ie5.5 ie6, ie7 and ie8 beta testing all in one.  It&#039;s decent but only on windows of course; so fire up VMware or Parallels and test away!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This brings about a good point that I am always bitched at about by my clients.  <span class="caps">IE6</span> interoperability.  I use a Mac, I code in Coda (flame away if you will) and use <span class="caps">MAMP</span> for testing.  I recently completed a design for a site and had tested it in Safari, <span class="caps">FF2</span> &amp; 3 <span class="caps">IE7</span> and Opera (even thought it&#8217;s only about 2%) and the client screamed at me because one of their biggest customers (roots) uses <span class="caps">IE6</span> still.  <span class="caps">WTF</span> uses <span class="caps">IE6</span> still!?  Jesus.  Anyways.  Long story short, I found a program called IETester that you can download from Softpedia, to do ie5.5 ie6, ie7 and ie8 beta testing all in one.  It&#8217;s decent but only on windows of course; so fire up VMware or Parallels and test&nbsp;away!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Rubin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Rubin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@lk: no worries, I just have to poke a little fun at those kinds of comments every so often ;)

The main point is that *I* was in a hurry when I coded it up, so thanks for pointing out that it needed fixing. It&#039;s much more useful now that it works in the IEs :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@lk: no worries, I just have to poke a little fun at those kinds of comments every so often&nbsp;;)</p>
<p>The main point is that *I* was in a hurry when I coded it up, so thanks for pointing out that it needed fixing. It&#8217;s much more useful now that it works in the IEs&nbsp;:)</p>
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		<title>By: lk</title>
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		<dc:creator>lk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good job. Didn&#039;t mean to be rude with my terse comment... was just in a hurry I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good job. Didn&#8217;t mean to be rude with my terse comment&#8230; was just in a hurry I&nbsp;guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Rubin</title>
		<link>http://superfluousbanter.org/archives/2008/08/simple-css-hover-tab-thingy/comment-page-1/#comment-27581</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Rubin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve updated the post and demo with corrected CSS, so everything now works in IE6/7.

The problem was two-fold: I had neglected to set the list items to &lt;code&gt;float:left;&lt;/code&gt;, which IE6/7 both require in order to get the tabs to line up.

That fixed the positioning in the IE duo, but then a strange thing happened: IE6 wasn&#039;t reverting the &lt;code&gt;img&lt;/code&gt; elements to their default invisible state of &lt;code&gt;display:none&lt;/code&gt;, so once you hovered over a tab, its image stayed put (meaning if you hovered over all the tabs, the 3rd and top-most image would stay visible permanently). While this is obviously a bug in IE6, I didn&#039;t think it warranted either an IE6 stylesheet or an inline hack, so I found another way. That way was using a negative left margin as the default positioning, and then just setting the margin to zero on hover.

The new method works in your standard compliment of browsers (see the update at the very top of the post), so go forth and be fruitful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve updated the post and demo with corrected <span class="caps">CSS</span>, so everything now works in&nbsp;<span class="caps">IE6</span>/7.</p>
<p>The problem was two-fold: I had neglected to set the list items to <code>float:left;</code>, which IE6/7 both require in order to get the tabs to line&nbsp;up.</p>
<p>That fixed the positioning in the <span class="caps">IE</span> duo, but then a strange thing happened: <span class="caps">IE6</span> wasn&#8217;t reverting the <code>img</code> elements to their default invisible state of <code>display:none</code>, so once you hovered over a tab, its image stayed put (meaning if you hovered over all the tabs, the 3rd and top-most image would stay visible permanently). While this is obviously a bug in IE6, I didn&#8217;t think it warranted either an IE6 stylesheet or an inline hack, so I found another way. That way was using a negative left margin as the default positioning, and then just setting the margin to zero on&nbsp;hover.</p>
<p>The new method works in your standard compliment of browsers (see the update at the very top of the post), so go forth and be&nbsp;fruitful.</p>
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		<title>By: Pages tagged "simple"</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pages tagged "simple"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dan Rubin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Rubin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nick: I threw this together quickly, and didn&#039;t feel like launching VMWare at the time, so thanks for the note - then again, none of us are really surprised at anything not working in IE6 anymore, are we? ;)

@lk: Thanks so much for your insightful comment.

I&#039;ll fire up XP and take a look at what needs to be tweaked for at least IE7, and maybe IE6 while I&#039;m at it. Wouldn&#039;t want to leave the high percentages out in the cold :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nick: I threw this together quickly, and didn&#8217;t feel like launching VMWare at the time, so thanks for the note - then again, none of us are really surprised at anything not working in <span class="caps">IE6</span> anymore, are we?&nbsp;;)</p>
<p>@lk: Thanks so much for your insightful&nbsp;comment.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll fire up <span class="caps">XP</span> and take a look at what needs to be tweaked for at least <span class="caps">IE7</span>, and maybe <span class="caps">IE6</span> while I&#8217;m at it. Wouldn&#8217;t want to leave the high percentages out in the cold&nbsp;:)</p>
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		<title>By: lk</title>
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		<dc:creator>lk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Broken in IE7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Broken in&nbsp;<span class="caps">IE7</span></p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice! Floated anchors do not align correctly in IE6. I did not test IE7, but it looks fine in FF3 so I figure its bound to be close. None the less good job</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice! Floated anchors do not align correctly in <span class="caps">IE6</span>. I did not test <span class="caps">IE7</span>, but it looks fine in <span class="caps">FF3</span> so I figure its bound to be close. None the less good&nbsp;job</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Rubin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Rubin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lea: :)

@Bridget: Oooo, raising the bar...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lea:&nbsp;:)</p>
<p>@Bridget: Oooo, raising the&nbsp;bar&#8230;</p>
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