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Comments on QuickBooks Online Edition

I’ve been eval­u­at­ing alter­nate account­ing pack­ages for our firm for much of this year (we cur­rently run Quick­Books Pro on a PC — we’re a Mac-based busi­ness, but QB for Mac just doesn’t seem to cut the mus­tard), since, as a user expe­ri­ence con­sul­tant and user inter­face designer, I can’t stand actu­ally *using* QB.

I’ve been test­ing Blinksale for a few months and have been thrilled with its inter­face and usabil­ity (it’s actu­ally *fun* to use), but its cur­rent major lim­i­ta­tion (for us at least) is the lack of an export option to QB (send­ing our accoun­tant a QB file at the end of the year saves us money, thus it is of great impor­tance that we con­tinue to do that, even if we don’t use QB for any­thing else). They are fix­ing that soon by pro­vid­ing an API to allow export­ing and manip­u­la­tion of the data, but that hasn’t been released yet (some­one at Intuit should con­tact Firewheel Design and offer some fund­ing to make sure an “Export to QB Pro” option will be pos­si­ble, or maybe Intuit could develop a free solu­tion based on the API — there’s an idea!).

So, when I finally ‘found’ Quick­Books Online Edi­tion, I thought “ter­rific!” — true, the UI needs a *ton* of work to be con­sid­ered “user friendly” or even “usable”, but no more so than the UI of QB run­ning in Win­dows. Nonethe­less, I thought it would pro­vide the easy access of QB Pro with­out hav­ing to turn to a PC all the time (and make it eas­ier to han­dle account­ing on the road), but sadly, the lack of Mac sup­port will pre­vent my firm from trav­el­ing down this path at all.

ActiveX is a poor choice to begin with (I’m sure the QBOE team must be tired of hear­ing this by now), but the big­ger issue is that web-based appli­ca­tions should offer cross-platform and cross-browser com­pat­i­bil­ity. And rely­ing on a browser-specific (and thus, client-side) tech­nol­ogy for a web-based appli­ca­tion is a poor choice, no mat­ter what that tech­nol­ogy may be (it can also be argued that rely­ing on tech­nolo­gies such as AJAX is also a poor choice, but most devel­op­ers imple­ment­ing AJAX real­ize that, and pro­vide some level of back­wards com­pat­i­bil­ity for their users… excep­tions exist — Base­camp and Back­pack for exam­ple — but those choices have been made care­fully, and those appli­ca­tions sup­port mul­ti­ple plat­forms and browsers, so they are far less limiting).

I would beg Intuit to focus their devel­op­ment efforts on mak­ing QBOE a true web appli­ca­tion, cross-browser and cross-platform, instead of con­tin­u­ing down their cur­rent path (I mean, come on peo­ple — sug­gest­ing Vir­tual PC as an option for Mac users to access the Online Edi­tion of your soft­ware is push­ing the limit of rea­son), but I have a feel­ing they just won’t get the mes­sage (although I do hope they’ll prove me wrong, or bet­ter yet, hire me — I’d love to redesign the QBOE UI).

In the mean­time, I’ll con­tinue to wait and see what Josh Williams and the Firewheel team have in store for us when the Blinksale API is finally released, and hope that by tax time, I’ll be able to move my company’s invoic­ing data to Quick­Books Pro with­out too many caffeine-fueled late nights.

This item was posted by Dan Rubin on Tuesday, November 1st, 2005.

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8 comments on “Comments on QuickBooks Online Edition”

  1. Posted by Kevin Tamura on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2005.

    Boy won’t they be sur­prised when Active X is dis­abled in the next ver­sion of IE. Opps.

  2. Posted by Dan Rubin on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2005.

    ActiveX will only be *mostly* dis­abled in IE7, at least accord­ing to this post in the IE Blog.

    Exactly what the restric­tions will actu­ally mean for a large web appli­ca­tion like QBOE will remain to be seen, though I’m sure appli­ca­tion devel­op­ment teams will be test­ing exten­sively using the IE7 betas (and are likely doing so already).

  3. Posted by Bobby Jones on Wednesday, December 7th, 2005.

    I run a small inter­ac­tive firm as well and we cur­rently use QB for the Mac. It has not been bad at all. Its freak­ing account­ing soft­ware for christs sake. ha.
    We also use Cre­ative Man­ager Pro (I think the link is creativemanagerpro.com) for our time man­age­ment and they offer the full gamut so as of Jan­u­ary one we are switch­ing every­thing to CMP…it is also IP based so it can be accessed by my accoun­tant any­time remotely so that is nice. I hear one of the key ben­e­fits is that hav­ing the finan­cial com­po­nent tied in with project and time track­ing you really get more detail on your profitability.

    Cheers,
    Bobby j

  4. Posted by John P on Thursday, December 8th, 2005.

    I am look­ing for some­one with the expe­ri­ence to assist me in plac­ing QB on a server that will allow us to have com­pany man­agers access the books through our web site???
    JP

  5. Posted by P.J. Onori on Saturday, January 28th, 2006.

    I really dig this new design. Well done.

  6. Posted by Brad Estey on Monday, February 13th, 2006.

    I found this arti­cle on how to cre­ate a live link between a Microsoft Access Data­base and a Quick­books Pro data file.

    http://www.qodbc.com/qodbcaccess.htm

    Why not then, just build your own sys­tem with your own inter­face? ASP is an extremely easy lan­guage to learn and would allow you to edit the access db via your browser. Or if you’re more com­fort­able with PHP then there are plenty of My-SQL to MS Access con­vert­ers out there aswell.

    Per­son­ally, I’m the type of per­son to want to build my own money man­age­ment sys­tems rather than entrust it to another com­pany. Plus I’m cheap and wouldn’t want to pay those fees.

  7. Posted by Timothy Gray on Tuesday, February 21st, 2006.

    I couldn’t agree more about QB for Mac. I’ve been using Quicken for years and love it, but this year my accoun­tant had me switch to QB. I thought it would be pretty sim­i­lar to Quicken since they are made by the same com­pany, but QB is awful! There are so many things that QB could learn from Quicken. I find that Quicken is actu­ally more pow­er­ful in many ways. It’s a shame that Intuit was so short-sighted with the online edition.

  8. Posted by Tim Glinatsiis on Sunday, February 18th, 2007.

    It would seem that the author and I went down the exact same path. While wait­ing for a bur­rito yes­ter­day, I browsed through the Intuit site, and was jump­ing up and down when I saw that they were offer­ing an online version.

    I hopped on the iMac, and sprinted for the free-trial…only to find out they’re using ActiveX.

    Dude, Intuit…get the net. We want cross plat­form — and we CERTAINLY don’t want ActiveX. I don’t even want ActiveX on my PCs.

    Unfor­tu­nately, you keep staffing your online teams with idiots. I bailed out on your Quicken Bill­Pay ser­vice after 3 days because the same idiots were inca­pable of build­ing an inter­face that works.

    Congrats..they’ve done it again. I’m going to spend a lit­tle more time with my Fresh­books account, rather than fork out $200 to get Quick­books on my Macs.