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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] <a href="http://superfluousbanter.org/archives/2004/05/navigation-matrix-reloaded/" rel="nofollow">http://superfluousbanter.org/archives/2004/05/navigation-matrix-reloaded/</a> ??????????CSS […]</p>
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		<title>By: Adagio</title>
		<link>http://superfluousbanter.org/archives/2004/05/navigation-matrix-reloaded/comment-page-1/#comment-1834</link>
		<dc:creator>Adagio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2004 00:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found something &quot;serious&quot; about this kind of navigation. There are some users out there who don&#039;t turn off their CSS support, but the images.



When you turn off all images, you don&#039;t see any navigation or text at all. Is there any fix to this?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found something “serious” about this kind of navigation. There are some users out there who don’t turn off their CSS support, but the images.</p>
<p>When you turn off all images, you don’t see any navigation or text at all. Is there any fix to this?</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Machmeier</title>
		<link>http://superfluousbanter.org/archives/2004/05/navigation-matrix-reloaded/comment-page-1/#comment-1833</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Machmeier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2004 18:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe someone is interested in a customized example of Didier&#039;s Navigation Matrix. Sometimes three states (normal, active and hover) could be overkill, so I adapted Didier&#039;s Code and created the same navigation, but with only two states (normal and hover).



See a working example at: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redsplash.de/experiments/css/nav_matrix2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.redsplash.de/experiments/css/nav_matrix2/&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe someone is interested in a customized example of Didier’s Navigation Matrix. Sometimes three states (normal, active and hover) could be overkill, so I adapted Didier’s Code and created the same navigation, but with only two states (normal and hover).</p>
<p>See a working example at: <a href="http://www.redsplash.de/experiments/css/nav_matrix2/" rel="nofollow">http://www.redsplash.de/experiments/css/nav_matrix2/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2004 18:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wait instead use products 94, 88 and 94 110, sorry

Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wait instead use products 94, 88 and 94 110, sorry</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://superfluousbanter.org/archives/2004/05/navigation-matrix-reloaded/comment-page-1/#comment-1831</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2004 18:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know the last row is to stop the flickering but I guess I&#039;m not understanding the methodology of it.  I was looking at the contact one and sometimes it would use one row and sometimes it would use another for the same image, why wouldn&#039;t it lets say for the contact go to 262, 88 every time rather than go to 262, 66 sometimes, I hope this question makes sense.



Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the last row is to stop the flickering but I guess I’m not understanding the methodology of it.  I was looking at the contact one and sometimes it would use one row and sometimes it would use another for the same image, why wouldn’t it lets say for the contact go to 262, 88 every time rather than go to 262, 66 sometimes, I hope this question makes sense.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Solinas</title>
		<link>http://superfluousbanter.org/archives/2004/05/navigation-matrix-reloaded/comment-page-1/#comment-1830</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Solinas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2004 14:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please visit my website.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.keikoasura.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ralph Solinas o&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please visit my website.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.keikoasura.com/" rel="nofollow">Ralph Solinas o</a></p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://superfluousbanter.org/archives/2004/05/navigation-matrix-reloaded/comment-page-1/#comment-1829</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2004 11:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On my PC, in IE6 (not feed demon), if the setting in temp internet files is set to &#039;Every visit to the page&#039;, the rollover doesn&#039;t flicker, but when i move to the next tab, the previous one stays highlighted for a second?

Is there a fix for this problem? If you do it quick across all tabs, you can have all tabs highlighted at once, and then one by one they&#039;ll &#039;roll off&#039; afterwards.

Which setting is IE default set to? Because on &#039;automatically&#039; its fine...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On my PC, in IE6 (not feed demon), if the setting in temp internet files is set to ‘Every visit to the page’, the rollover doesn’t flicker, but when i move to the next tab, the previous one stays highlighted for a second?</p>
<p>Is there a fix for this problem? If you do it quick across all tabs, you can have all tabs highlighted at once, and then one by one they’ll ‘roll off’ afterwards.</p>
<p>Which setting is IE default set to? Because on ‘automatically’ its fine…</p>
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		<title>By: Adagio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adagio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2004 10:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I tried to use your method to create a navigation, but the hover doesn&#039;t work on IE5.0 (PC) ... I really have no idea, why. My code is (more or less) 100% the same one you have used.



&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kurierdienst-kuehn.de/willkommen/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Link to my site&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to use your method to create a navigation, but the hover doesn’t work on IE5.0 (PC) … I really have no idea, why. My code is (more or less) 100% the same one you have used.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kurierdienst-kuehn.de/willkommen/" rel="nofollow">Link to my site</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kim Siever</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Siever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2004 18:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only flickering I get is when I click on a tab.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only flickering I get is when I click on a tab.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Hatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2004 23:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found that setting the following in ul#nav seems to fix the &lt;a href=&quot;http://superfluousbanter.org/archives/000187.php#comment2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Odd Gecko Effect&lt;/a&gt; and in the process found that IE5/mac needs a little hacking to look perfect:





/* this block replaces the existing top: 68px; rule for ul#nav */

  top: 63px;

  /* comment from ie5/mac \*/

  top: 68px;

  /* end hiding */

  padding: 0;





No regressions:

IE6/winIE5.5/winIE5.01/winFirefox-0.8/winMozilla-1.7b/winMozilla-1.6a/winSafari-1.2/macOpera-7/winOpera-6/winOpera-5/win



Looks better:

Firebird-0.7/winCamino-0.7/macIE-5.2/macNetscape-6.2/win



Does setting the padding to 0 have some unknown effect I&#039;m not catching?



Oh, almost forgot the &lt;a href=&quot;http://lab.timhatch.com/nav/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;demo page&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found that setting the following in ul#nav seems to fix the <a href="http://superfluousbanter.org/archives/000187.php#comment2" rel="nofollow">Odd Gecko Effect</a> and in the process found that IE5/mac needs a little hacking to look perfect:</p>
<p>/* this block replaces the existing top: 68px; rule for ul#nav */</p>
<p>  top: 63px;</p>
<p>  /* comment from ie5/mac \*/</p>
<p>  top: 68px;</p>
<p>  /* end hiding */</p>
<p>  padding: 0;</p>
<p>No regressions:</p>
<p>IE6/winIE5.5/winIE5.01/winFirefox-0.8/winMozilla-1.7b/winMozilla-1.6a/winSafari-1.2/macOpera-7/winOpera-6/winOpera-5/win</p>
<p>Looks better:</p>
<p>Firebird-0.7/winCamino-0.7/macIE-5.2/macNetscape-6.2/win</p>
<p>Does setting the padding to 0 have some unknown effect I’m not catching?</p>
<p>Oh, almost forgot the <a href="http://lab.timhatch.com/nav/" rel="nofollow">demo page</a>.</p>
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