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		<title>By: Lebeko</title>
		<link>http://superfluousbanter.org/archives/2004/04/atm-contingency/comment-page-1/#comment-1670</link>
		<dc:creator>Lebeko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I am 6&#039; 3&quot; and agree with all the other tall users about the button perception problem. My specific query is about the &#039;confirmation tones&#039; that ATMS spit out when you enter your PIN. These sound like DTMF tones and can thus be &#039;hacked&#039;. What is the benefit of these tones? Can they be generated randomly by each ATM?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I am 6′ 3″ and agree with all the other tall users about the button perception problem. My specific query is about the ‘confirmation tones’ that ATMS spit out when you enter your PIN. These sound like DTMF tones and can thus be ‘hacked’. What is the benefit of these tones? Can they be generated randomly by each ATM?</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2004 19:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In England, one of the best things ATMs do is require you to grab your card before they spit out the cash.  This ensures you don&#039;t leave your card behind.  The first time it happens as a foreigner, you are freaked out (my card didn&#039;t work?!?), but after that you grow to appreciate this small piece of genius.



Fleet Bank (now part of Bank of America) lets you set language preferences one time, and stores them on the card.  



When I go to an ATM, 95% of the time, I withdraw $100 with no receipt.  Why not keep track of that and after a few of those withdraws, offer me that with one touch?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In England, one of the best things ATMs do is require you to grab your card before they spit out the cash.  This ensures you don’t leave your card behind.  The first time it happens as a foreigner, you are freaked out (my card didn’t work?!?), but after that you grow to appreciate this small piece of genius.</p>
<p>Fleet Bank (now part of Bank of America) lets you set language preferences one time, and stores them on the card.  </p>
<p>When I go to an ATM, 95% of the time, I withdraw $100 with no receipt.  Why not keep track of that and after a few of those withdraws, offer me that with one touch?</p>
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		<title>By: Didier Hilhorst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Didier Hilhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2004 01:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another problem I was confronted with today: the sun. If the sun shines directly at the ATM screen or it&#039;s a bright day overall there&#039;s no way you can see what&#039;s happening on the screen. I&#039;m tall too, so I need to make all sorts of weird movements and basically have my nose touching the screen to see what to do. But I guess the light issue is a tough one to resolve. Though from the experiences I read here we can start a petition requesting better ATM machines!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another problem I was confronted with today: the sun. If the sun shines directly at the ATM screen or it’s a bright day overall there’s no way you can see what’s happening on the screen. I’m tall too, so I need to make all sorts of weird movements and basically have my nose touching the screen to see what to do. But I guess the light issue is a tough one to resolve. Though from the experiences I read here we can start a petition requesting better ATM machines!</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Grucza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Grucza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2004 22:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of paying at the store, why does there have to be a step to choose between credit card and debit?  I thought the point of a debit card was that you could use it the exact same way as a credit card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of paying at the store, why does there have to be a step to choose between credit card and debit?  I thought the point of a debit card was that you could use it the exact same way as a credit card.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2004 09:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always thought ATM&#039;s in other countries were so smart they could recognize my foreign card, because here in the Netherlands I&#039;ve never seen the screen with step #2 and in the rest of Europe and beyond I usually do get it (except at some local banks). 



I&#039;m on the autopilot as well at ATM&#039;s. But the alternative step #5 (no receipt available) is so common here that I have automatically adopted my flow to a tiny pause here, just to confirm the message on the screen. 



By the way, a few months back I stumbled upon an ATM that was out of order. But instead of the usual out-of-order message, I got to see a nice green standard Windows desktop with a few icons. Especially funny was my impulse to look for the mouse to reboot the server.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought ATM’s in other countries were so smart they could recognize my foreign card, because here in the Netherlands I’ve never seen the screen with step #2 and in the rest of Europe and beyond I usually do get it (except at some local banks). </p>
<p>I’m on the autopilot as well at ATM’s. But the alternative step #5 (no receipt available) is so common here that I have automatically adopted my flow to a tiny pause here, just to confirm the message on the screen. </p>
<p>By the way, a few months back I stumbled upon an ATM that was out of order. But instead of the usual out-of-order message, I got to see a nice green standard Windows desktop with a few icons. Especially funny was my impulse to look for the mouse to reboot the server.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2004 22:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The machines that are slowly driving me insane are the ones at grocery stores and the such for doing debit / credit card transactions.  Each one is different, and each one is poorly done.



For example, after typing in your pin number at Target the thing loudly beeps at you and shoots your card out.  Which even after 20+ times of using the thing I still panic thinking that my card is busted or I got my PIN wrong.  Nope, the obnoxious beep is to inform you that your card has been ejected and you should grab it while the transaction completes.  I guess I&#039;m used to ATMs that hold your card until the transaction is done, because it is disconcerning to see your card spit out before the transaction completes.



At the Winn-Dixie grocery store the buttons for Ok / Cancel and Yes / No are shared.  Along with four buttons along the top for making decisions.  So you are presented with a screen that looks like this (with top row buttons &quot;rendered&quot;)



Would you like cash back?  Yes / No

----^---^--^--^



It certainly looks like I could click on a top row button to choose yes or no, but instead if you don&#039;t want cash back you press the CANCEL button.  



At Krogers if you want cash back, the secret is to press No when the thing asks you if the amount listed is correct.  The screen says &quot;Is this amount correct?&quot;  pauses 5 or 6 seconds and then displays &quot;Press No for cashback.&quot;



Argh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The machines that are slowly driving me insane are the ones at grocery stores and the such for doing debit / credit card transactions.  Each one is different, and each one is poorly done.</p>
<p>For example, after typing in your pin number at Target the thing loudly beeps at you and shoots your card out.  Which even after 20+ times of using the thing I still panic thinking that my card is busted or I got my PIN wrong.  Nope, the obnoxious beep is to inform you that your card has been ejected and you should grab it while the transaction completes.  I guess I’m used to ATMs that hold your card until the transaction is done, because it is disconcerning to see your card spit out before the transaction completes.</p>
<p>At the Winn-Dixie grocery store the buttons for Ok / Cancel and Yes / No are shared.  Along with four buttons along the top for making decisions.  So you are presented with a screen that looks like this (with top row buttons “rendered”)</p>
<p>Would you like cash back?  Yes / No</p>
<p>—-^—^–^–^</p>
<p>It certainly looks like I could click on a top row button to choose yes or no, but instead if you don’t want cash back you press the CANCEL button.  </p>
<p>At Krogers if you want cash back, the secret is to press No when the thing asks you if the amount listed is correct.  The screen says “Is this amount correct?”  pauses 5 or 6 seconds and then displays “Press No for cashback.”</p>
<p>Argh.</p>
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		<title>By: Robb Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robb Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2004 11:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean Scott, I don&#039;t take issue with ATM&#039;s offering the user interface in different languages... I think that&#039;s great. And your tourist example is one of many illustrations of why a multiple language options are necessary. 



My issue is with the fact that the ATM doesn&#039;t *have* to ask me what my language preference is every time I initiate a transaction. My language preference could be hard-coded into my ATM card.



I&#039;m sure there may be situations where I&#039;d want to interact with the machine in, lets say, Portugese rather than my default preference of German. But the option to switch to a language other than my default choice could be on a sencondary or tertiary level... not the primary transaction path.



Of course, any ATM machine that didn&#039;t recognize the coding on my card would have to resort to asking my language preference, but that would be a minor inconvenience only when I use a &quot;foreign&quot; ATM (and a potential selling point for my bank--&quot;Whenever you use an ACME branded ATM, you can be sure we&#039;ll know what language to speak to you&quot;)



On a related note:  I&#039;m 6&#039;1&quot; and also find myself frustrated with the ATM screen being too low. However, I figure that&#039;s just a price I pay for being tall. It&#039;s easy for me to crouch down to see the screen properly. It&#039;s much more difficult for a disabled person to increase their height to easily interact with a screen oriented to someone of my height.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean Scott, I don’t take issue with ATM’s offering the user interface in different languages… I think that’s great. And your tourist example is one of many illustrations of why a multiple language options are necessary. </p>
<p>My issue is with the fact that the ATM doesn’t *have* to ask me what my language preference is every time I initiate a transaction. My language preference could be hard-coded into my ATM card.</p>
<p>I’m sure there may be situations where I’d want to interact with the machine in, lets say, Portugese rather than my default preference of German. But the option to switch to a language other than my default choice could be on a sencondary or tertiary level… not the primary transaction path.</p>
<p>Of course, any ATM machine that didn’t recognize the coding on my card would have to resort to asking my language preference, but that would be a minor inconvenience only when I use a “foreign” ATM (and a potential selling point for my bank–“Whenever you use an ACME branded ATM, you can be sure we’ll know what language to speak to you”)</p>
<p>On a related note:  I’m 6’1″ and also find myself frustrated with the ATM screen being too low. However, I figure that’s just a price I pay for being tall. It’s easy for me to crouch down to see the screen properly. It’s much more difficult for a disabled person to increase their height to easily interact with a screen oriented to someone of my height.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Eliasson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Eliasson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2004 10:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. About the &#039;height&#039; issue: I&#039;m 6&#039; 2&quot; but don&#039;t experience the same problem with ATMs, possibly because the screen placement on swedish ones (that&#039;s where I live) differs from US/UK ones? Over here we get another complaint; people with disabilities have trouble using our ATM, they&#039;re to high up!



2 Annoyance nobody mentioned: Why can&#039;t the blasted machine tell me there&#039;s only SEK 500 bills available BEFORE I insert my card? I have to insert card, give code and then be told! Grumble, grumble...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. About the ‘height’ issue: I’m 6′ 2″ but don’t experience the same problem with ATMs, possibly because the screen placement on swedish ones (that’s where I live) differs from US/UK ones? Over here we get another complaint; people with disabilities have trouble using our ATM, they’re to high up!</p>
<p>2 Annoyance nobody mentioned: Why can’t the blasted machine tell me there’s only SEK 500 bills available BEFORE I insert my card? I have to insert card, give code and then be told! Grumble, grumble…</p>
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		<title>By: Didier Hilhorst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Didier Hilhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2004 00:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard - The graphic was made using Adobe Photoshop and Macromedia Fireworks. I work with both applications. I like how Fireworks renders pixel fonts. For other aspects I rely on Photoshop. Both applications have their respective advantages, but Photoshop remains the most robust and complete piece of software to create graphics.



From the comments it seems there&#039;s a whole lot wrong with current ATM&#039;s (or cash machines), not just the display. I&#039;m still surprised how many interfaces we use on a daily basis, or atleast regularly, are poorly designed or engineered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard — The graphic was made using Adobe Photoshop and Macromedia Fireworks. I work with both applications. I like how Fireworks renders pixel fonts. For other aspects I rely on Photoshop. Both applications have their respective advantages, but Photoshop remains the most robust and complete piece of software to create graphics.</p>
<p>From the comments it seems there’s a whole lot wrong with current ATM’s (or cash machines), not just the display. I’m still surprised how many interfaces we use on a daily basis, or atleast regularly, are poorly designed or engineered.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2004 23:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off-topic question: What did you use to create the ATM graphic? Very nice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off-topic question: What did you use to create the ATM graphic? Very nice!</p>
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