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	<title>Comments on: When Human Brain Needs an Update</title>
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	<description>Suffering from chronic idiocy since 1977</description>
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		<title>By: jharr</title>
		<link>http://superfluousbanter.org/archives/2004/03/when-human-brai/comment-page-1/#comment-1595</link>
		<dc:creator>jharr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2004 04:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me so much of the &quot;my grandson can build my webpage&quot; mentality.  When I have trouble with my car I go to a mechanic.  I don&#039;t mess with it because it&#039;s more complex then I know how to fix and it&#039;s important it&#039;s done right because I need to get to work and keep my family safe.  So why is that any different when it comes to designing and implementing a professional corporate website?  



It looks like Lockergnome has avoided the cost of having a design professional redesign the site and feels that installing Windows and hardware tewaking a PC somehow have anything to do with designing a professional site.  The skills it takes to design and implement a truly usable and compliant site have little to do with traditional geek talents.  Apparently folks still have a lot to learn.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me so much of the “my grandson can build my webpage” mentality.  When I have trouble with my car I go to a mechanic.  I don’t mess with it because it’s more complex then I know how to fix and it’s important it’s done right because I need to get to work and keep my family safe.  So why is that any different when it comes to designing and implementing a professional corporate website?  </p>
<p>It looks like Lockergnome has avoided the cost of having a design professional redesign the site and feels that installing Windows and hardware tewaking a PC somehow have anything to do with designing a professional site.  The skills it takes to design and implement a truly usable and compliant site have little to do with traditional geek talents.  Apparently folks still have a lot to learn.</p>
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		<title>By: KillAllDash9</title>
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		<dc:creator>KillAllDash9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2004 16:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should let us know where this forum is. Maybe if we all gang up on them... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should let us know where this forum is. Maybe if we all gang up on them… :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is such an insane issue that causes normally rational people to behave like crazy people. Here&#039;s an opposite end of the spectrum example:



I&#039;m a firm believer that web standards are currently the right direction. I also understand the need for restraint and understanding.



I&#039;ve gotten (is that a word?) myself into much trouble on a forum I frequent over a debate about tables. See, I believe in the concept that tables should not be used for page layout...web standards, and all. But, there are some on the forum that think tableless design means no tables...EVER. Try as I might to get them to comprehend the difference between using tables for layout (usually bad) and using tables for tabular data (good, proper, and correct), I keep running into a wall.



There are *some* on the far end of the web standards debate that believe *everything* should be done without tables. This is just crazy. I&#039;ve been debating with these lunkheads about why you shouldn&#039;t convert your calendars to pure CSS using divs and spans. Sure, it&#039;s an excellent exercise to teach yourself CSS, but should not be used in practice. Calendars *are* tabular data. To prove this point, I&#039;ve asked these folks to create their CSS tables, then turn CSS off in their browser. Does the data still make sense? The answer is no. However, they still insist that pure CSS - no tables ever - is the one and only answer, and anyone (like me) who thinks otherwise is stuck in the dark ages.



But, in reference to your article: I, too, think Lockergnome is making a hasty mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is such an insane issue that causes normally rational people to behave like crazy people. Here’s an opposite end of the spectrum example:</p>
<p>I’m a firm believer that web standards are currently the right direction. I also understand the need for restraint and understanding.</p>
<p>I’ve gotten (is that a word?) myself into much trouble on a forum I frequent over a debate about tables. See, I believe in the concept that tables should not be used for page layout…web standards, and all. But, there are some on the forum that think tableless design means no tables…EVER. Try as I might to get them to comprehend the difference between using tables for layout (usually bad) and using tables for tabular data (good, proper, and correct), I keep running into a wall.</p>
<p>There are *some* on the far end of the web standards debate that believe *everything* should be done without tables. This is just crazy. I’ve been debating with these lunkheads about why you shouldn’t convert your calendars to pure CSS using divs and spans. Sure, it’s an excellent exercise to teach yourself CSS, but should not be used in practice. Calendars *are* tabular data. To prove this point, I’ve asked these folks to create their CSS tables, then turn CSS off in their browser. Does the data still make sense? The answer is no. However, they still insist that pure CSS — no tables ever — is the one and only answer, and anyone (like me) who thinks otherwise is stuck in the dark ages.</p>
<p>But, in reference to your article: I, too, think Lockergnome is making a hasty mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Vincent</title>
		<link>http://superfluousbanter.org/archives/2004/03/when-human-brai/comment-page-1/#comment-1592</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2004 06:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To quote the Quizno&#039;s commercial: &quot;I fear change, and will keep my bushes.&quot;



To point cynically at human nature: &quot;I hate what I do not understand.&quot;



The same attitudes caused genocide and unnecessary war more than once in this century, and thousands of other times over the history of human civilization.  From a scale as grand as global dominance to as miniscule as a website, we&#039;re all the same.  It&#039;s all in how you adapt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote the Quizno’s commercial: “I fear change, and will keep my bushes.”</p>
<p>To point cynically at human nature: “I hate what I do not understand.”</p>
<p>The same attitudes caused genocide and unnecessary war more than once in this century, and thousands of other times over the history of human civilization.  From a scale as grand as global dominance to as miniscule as a website, we’re all the same.  It’s all in how you adapt.</p>
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