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Persecuting Christians

My quartet sang for our Bass’s church this past Sunday morn (two services), nothing complicated, just our Gospel Medley and the Irish Blessing. Both were very well received, and we sold some tapes and CDs to boot.

However: Part of the deal was that I actually had to sit through each service and do my best to look like I was paying attention. The problem with it is that occasionally I actually did pay attention, and what I heard pissed me off.

The pastor was in the middle of his sermon, and started talking about some Christian radio talk show he had been recently listening to, and went on to mention this woman who called in and said that P.C. no longer stands for Political Correctness, but instead stands for Persecuting Christians. The pastor then went on to say that this kind of comment, while extreme, is not entirely without merit. He said there are people in our country who would like to prevent Christians from practicing their religion, from promoting the “Word of God ™”, from actually being Christians, and that all Christians must be strong and fight for their right to preach their faith!

It was that last line that really got me hot under the collar. I’ve been a practicing Agnostic for many years (that’s somewhat tongue-in-cheek), and one thing that has always bugged me about Christians (in my experience, it’s always that bunch) is how many of them force their faith and beliefs on unsuspecting bystanders. I had a friend when I was about 10 who, when he asked me about God and I replied “I don’t believe in god, I need more proof”, proceeded to tell me that I was going to hell if I didn’t believe in God, and that I would be forever damned. He was my age. His family wasn’t a crazed bunch of bleeding-edge religious lunatics, they were “normal” chuch-going folk. They moved from our street a few years later, and his parents actually attend the church that my girlfriend’s parents/grandparents attend (and prior to meeting me, my girlfriend had known this family…of course, Lauren and I lived just a few blocks from each other for about 7 years when we were much too young to have been dating, but that’s another story for another day).

Don’t worry, Lauren isn’t religious :-)

I’ve been preached to so many times by so many different people that I’ve completely lost count. My ex-girlfriend was a Catholic (she was a lovely girl, but I still think Catholics are the worst of the bunch), and even she couldn’t resist the occasional reminder that I was probably not going to heaven, even though I was more of a ” Good Christian” in my behavior than many church-goers she knew. All because thinking otherwise went against her belief system.

Now, I don’t want people to have to stop believing in their faith, nor am I going to tell people that I think they are wrong, and that it’s sad to see so many intelligent people acting like a dumb flock of sheep, etc. etc. What I do want is for people to keep their beliefs to themselves.

I don’t force my silence or neutrality upon others, and I would appreciate if others would be so kind as to not force their beliefs upon my ears.

This item was posted by Dan Rubin on Wednesday, August 14th, 2002.


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5 comments on “Persecuting Christians”

  1. Posted by shaggy on Thursday, October 9th, 2003.

    You must understand something. Christian means a folower of Christ. Jesus is revealed in the Bible. The bible tells us to “Mt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:” so the Christian has a right yea duty to preach to people. The problem is people are afraid to hear it.

    You have every right to believe what you want but don’t persecute people who believe in something.

  2. Posted by Wendy Reed on Friday, October 10th, 2003.

    I’m a protestant and I’m a Christian. I agree with the agnostic. “Holier than Thou” attitudes really bother me and I’ve associated it with many dogmatic. The scripture sited for the Book of Matthew was giving instructions of Christians of where to go, not how to do it.

  3. Posted by Warren on Tuesday, December 30th, 2003.

    In response to Shaggy’s statement:

    “…so the Christian has a right yea duty to preach to people.”

    I just have to state that a Christian’s “right” to preach to “people” stops where everybody else’s right to be left alone begins.

    The Bible doesn’t give you any “rights” under the law, such as your “right to preach.” However, the law does grant the rest of us the right to not be harassed.

  4. Posted by Hartmurmur on Saturday, January 3rd, 2004.

    It’s unfortunate that you’ve been turned of to a faith in Christ because of some people who may have “said it the wrong way.” Just like I don’t appreciate rainbow flags waved by men wearing leather thongs telling me that ‘gay’ is okay. I have several gay friends and I wouldn’t have ever stopped to become their friend had it been through that interaction.

    I don’t agree with the gay lifestyle. I accept and appreciate those for who they are though. Sin is the same regardless of what it is (lying, adultery, envy, homosexuality, lust, etc.). It’s a separation from God and that, by God’s grace, was able to be removed by having a relationship (not religion), with Jesus Christ.

    I encourage you to read “More Than A Carpenter,” by Josh McDowell who offers the best insights from someone who was Agnostic who found out who the real Christ was and is. I’d be happy to send you a copy myself.

  5. Posted by Fernando Dunn II on Tuesday, June 29th, 2004.

    I agree with your statement, yet I also disagree.

    On one hand, Christians these days tend to persecute other people for persecuting them. On the other hand, I cannot answer a co-worker’s question about my faith without someone in the background shooting down what I believe in. It’s not that they want me to convert to their beliefs. They just have a severe problem with Christianity.

    I spent my whole life being irritated by Christianity. I hated how Christians preached down to people instead of preaching them up. I didn’t like or appreciate anyone telling me that I was “hell-bound.” I walked through life with a MUCH worst attitude towards Christians than probably anyone. I got to the point where I wanted to snap when someone began talking about Christ.

    But in 2002 — out of curiousity — I picked up a Bible and started to read. All I can say is that my life began to change from that point on. I started to see things in a different lens. I could see why they preached so heavily to me, and why I refused to hear.

    You cannot take anyone’s word about Christ. You have to try him for yourself. The choice is yours.